Conservation of Bustedness

[jim rozen]

There's only so much stuff that can be working correctly
in the universe at one time.

I scored a *really* nice Thor D-handle drill at a garage sale last
week, ten bucks.

This weekend I had some spare time so I took the Jacobs chuck off
and dismantled it, cleaned it, and re-assemebled. Then I figured
the cord was pretty old and the plug was punky I would change that
out too.

I had a nice heavy duty cordset with a molded plug, so it was
an easy change. I was gonna have a nice D-handle drill to
compliment my smaller milwaukee.

While doing the cord I figured the cord clamp wasn't *quite*
grabbing the cord enough, so I thought some heat-shrink on the
cord OD would improve matters. A quick trip to the heat-shrink
department and then I fired up the heat gun to do the deed on
it.

There was an impressive *Pop* from the innards of the heat gun,
and then smoke began to gently waft from the air intake. Turns
out the handle (which had been spinning a bit loose for a while,
this is an elderly Veeco that I've had for years) had finally
spun enough to short the neutral wire against the hot switch
lead.

So after I put electrical tape on the drill cordset instead,
and had that all back together, I opened up the heat gun next.

Cleaned out all the crud in there, cut back the linecord and
also put red locktite on the handle (too bad I didn't do
that 20 years ago!) and generally cleaned up the wiring which
was, honestly, kinda haywire. "Who the hell made this mess,"
oh it was me. There were even wire nuts in there! I could
replace those with soldered joints and put some heat-shrink
tubing.... well, never mind, wire nuts lasted 20 years so
far.

So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Jim

[Tom Gardner]

Any time I want to hang a picture on a wall I have to: Paint the picture,
make the nail, fix the hammer and build the wall.

Post by jim rozen
There's only so much stuff that can be working correctly
in the universe at one time.
I scored a *really* nice Thor D-handle drill at a garage sale last
week, ten bucks.
This weekend I had some spare time so I took the Jacobs chuck off
and dismantled it, cleaned it, and re-assemebled. Then I figured
the cord was pretty old and the plug was punky I would change that
out too.
I had a nice heavy duty cordset with a molded plug, so it was
an easy change. I was gonna have a nice D-handle drill to
compliment my smaller milwaukee.
While doing the cord I figured the cord clamp wasn't *quite*
grabbing the cord enough, so I thought some heat-shrink on the
cord OD would improve matters. A quick trip to the heat-shrink
department and then I fired up the heat gun to do the deed on
it.
There was an impressive *Pop* from the innards of the heat gun,
and then smoke began to gently waft from the air intake. Turns
out the handle (which had been spinning a bit loose for a while,
this is an elderly Veeco that I've had for years) had finally
spun enough to short the neutral wire against the hot switch
lead.
So after I put electrical tape on the drill cordset instead,
and had that all back together, I opened up the heat gun next.
Cleaned out all the crud in there, cut back the linecord and
also put red locktite on the handle (too bad I didn't do
that 20 years ago!) and generally cleaned up the wiring which
was, honestly, kinda haywire. "Who the hell made this mess,"
oh it was me. There were even wire nuts in there! I could
replace those with soldered joints and put some heat-shrink
tubing.... well, never mind, wire nuts lasted 20 years so
far.
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...
Jim
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JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com
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[jim rozen]

Post by Tom Gardner
Any time I want to hang a picture on a wall I have to: Paint the picture,
make the nail, fix the hammer and build the wall.

I guess that makes you a full-service operation!

:^)

Jim

[carl mciver]

"jim rozen" <***@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:***@drn.newsguy.com...
| In article <FbGme.422$***@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>, nospam says...
| >
| >Any time I want to hang a picture on a wall I have to: Paint the picture,
| >make the nail, fix the hammer and build the wall.
|
| I guess that makes you a full-service operation!

You must not believe in outsourcing, unless you bought the hammer,
paint, and painting tools!

[Tom Gardner]

Post by jim rozen

Post by Tom Gardner
Any time I want to hang a picture on a wall I have to: Paint the picture,
make the nail, fix the hammer and build the wall.

I guess that makes you a full-service operation!
:^)
Jim
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JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com
==================================================

Lousy picture, bent nail, duct-taped hammer, crooked wall...I can do
everything, but not well.

[DeepDiver]

Post by jim rozen
While doing the cord I figured the cord clamp wasn't *quite*
grabbing the cord enough, so I thought some heat-shrink on
the cord OD would improve matters.
There was an impressive *Pop* from the innards of the heat
gun, and then smoke began to gently waft from the air intake.
So after I put electrical tape on the drill cordset...

That's why you should always keep a spare BIC Lighter around. Just rotate
the heat shrink, like a pig on a spit, well over the flame so that it
shrinks evenly and doesn't char or burn.

[Leo Lichtman]

"DeepDiver" wrote: That's why you should always keep a spare BIC Lighter
around. (CLIP)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
According to the Law of Conservation of Bustedness, there is another way to
use the Bic lighter. Smack it with a hammer. Your heat gun ought to fix
itself. But it DON'T. Why not?

[jk]

Post by Leo Lichtman
"DeepDiver" wrote: That's why you should always keep a spare BIC Lighter
around. (CLIP)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
According to the Law of Conservation of Bustedness, there is another way to
use the Bic lighter. Smack it with a hammer. Your heat gun ought to fix
itself. But it DON'T. Why not?

Because you cant direct the directions that the un-bustedness takes.
YOu whack the lighter, and perhaps some ones in mongolia has their
busted tooth fixed.
jk

[Leo Lichtman]

"jk" wrote: (clip) YOu whack the lighter, and perhaps some ones in mongolia
has their busted tooth fixed.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Okay, I see. So, breaking things you don't need is GOOD. Next time the Red
Cross or Cancer Society calls, I'll just tell them, "I broke at the office."

[T.Alan Kraus]

Post by Leo Lichtman
"DeepDiver" wrote: That's why you should always keep a spare BIC Lighter
around. (CLIP)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
According to the Law of Conservation of Bustedness, there is another way to
use the Bic lighter. Smack it with a hammer. Your heat gun ought to fix
itself. But it DON'T. Why not?

One cannot influence the Law of C of B . It derives from aleatory and
universal powers. If Murphy's selective gravity law had let the hammer
fall on the Bic lighter on its own accord, then maybe just maybe the
heat gun might be fixed, but most likely it would be some arrow in Papua
that would have been straightened overnight by mysterious forces.

cheers
T.Alan

[B.B.]

In article

Post by Leo Lichtman
"DeepDiver" wrote: That's why you should always keep a spare BIC Lighter
around. (CLIP)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
According to the Law of Conservation of Bustedness, there is another way to
use the Bic lighter. Smack it with a hammer. Your heat gun ought to fix
itself. But it DON'T. Why not?

It probably fixed something somewhere else. Kinda like in the 80's
all those rock bands were smashing guitars left and right--computer
industry got going. Obviously we now need to start smashing computers
for the sake of future generations.

[Peter Grey]

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?

Peter

[Don Foreman]

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?

Yeah, and my ethernet router?

[JohnM]

Post by Don Foreman

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?

Yeah, and my ethernet router?

Yeah, it got me too.. I just limped the old lady's car home with a flat
tire. Hope you knock off that fixing stuff soon..

Seems to be some multiple effect, branching out like the particle tracks
from the particle accelerator.. hits something and that breaks, then you
repair it and the bustedness particles branch out and hit other stuff.
I'll get somebody back for it, soon as I put a new tire on..


John

[Tom Miller]

. Hope you knock off that fixing stuff soon..

Post by JohnM
Seems to be some multiple effect, branching out like the particle tracks
from the particle accelerator.. hits something and that breaks, then you
repair it and the bustedness particles branch out and hit other stuff.

You know, I think there's a P.Hd dissertation there somewhere. Now if you
could get a Government research grant and a few spare
years..........................?

[Tom Gardner]

Post by Don Foreman

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?

Yeah, and my ethernet router?

What size bits does your router take?

[Don Bruder]

Post by Tom Gardner

Post by Don Foreman

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?

Yeah, and my ethernet router?

What size bits does your router take?

Probably the standard "8-to-a-byte" size. Of course there are weird off
brands that go with the proprietary 16-to-a-word format, but those are
just needlessly confusing to the end-user.

[Don Foreman]

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 00:20:36 GMT, "Tom Gardner"

Post by Tom Gardner

Post by Don Foreman

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?

Yeah, and my ethernet router?

What size bits does your router take?

They must be pretty small because it handles 100 million of them per
second.

[Tim Williams]

Post by Tom Gardner

Post by Don Foreman
Yeah, and my ethernet router?

What size bits does your router take?

Probably 1/4" bits, if it came from 1963.

Tim

--
"California is the breakfast state: fruits, nuts and flakes."
Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

[Tom Gardner]

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?
Peter

Pete's drill wasn't ALWAYS a cordless...could be why it stoped working, the
cord broke off.

[JohnM]

Post by Tom Gardner

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?
Peter

Pete's drill wasn't ALWAYS a cordless...could be why it stoped working, the
cord broke off.

I picked up a skilsaw at the junkyard once.. the cord was cut just long
enough to bend under the saw and reach the front of the blade:-D

John

[Daniel A. Mitchell]

Post by Tom Gardner

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?
Peter

Pete's drill wasn't ALWAYS a cordless...could be why it stoped working, the
cord broke off.

Our university engineering students did this same conversion to our
Rockwell table saw. They cut their own cord off, with the saw. A TABLE
saw. That's not easy! An electric HAND saw, sure, that's easy; but a
TABLE saw?

They never cease to amaze me.

Dan Mitchell
============

[Gerald Miller]

On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 09:40:39 -0400, "Daniel A. Mitchell"

Post by Daniel A. Mitchell

Post by Tom Gardner

Post by Peter Grey

Post by jim rozen
So now the drill and the heat gun work. So something else
is fixing to go bust anytime now...

Yep. It did. At my house. So it's YOUR fault my cordless drill stopped
working!?
Peter

Pete's drill wasn't ALWAYS a cordless...could be why it stoped working, the
cord broke off.

Our university engineering students did this same conversion to our
Rockwell table saw. They cut their own cord off, with the saw. A TABLE
saw. That's not easy! An electric HAND saw, sure, that's easy; but a
TABLE saw?
They never cease to amaze me.

Three key words - UNIVERSITY ENGINEERING STUDENTS -
explains it completely, they probably survived, unfortunately.

Post by Daniel A. Mitchell
Dan Mitchell
============

Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

[John Manders]

There's a song in UK called "On the Monday morning, the gas man came to
call".

A guy moves into a new house on the Friday but someone had painted over the
gas tap so it couldn't turn on.
So, on the monday morning, the gas man came to call.
He had to replace the gas tap so the kitchen units had to be cut around.
So, on the tuesday morning, the carpenter came to call.
He replaced the kitchen bases but couldn't connect the sink.
So, on the Wednesday morning, the plumber came to call.
He fixed the water to the sink but drove a screw into the mains cable.
So, on the Thursday morning, the electrician came to call.
He chased out the wall and repaired cable. That left the decorations in a
mess.
So, on the Friday morning, the painter came to call.
He painted the walls. He painted the ceiling. He even painted the doors.
When he left the kitchen looked great - but he'd painted over the gas tap so
it couldn't turn on.
The Gas company don't work weekends.
So, on the Monday morning, the gas man came to call.

John

[jim rozen]

Post by John Manders
There's a song in UK called "On the Monday morning, the gas man came to
call".

That's my house. The worst thing in the world is a puddle on
the floor. I see that and expect the worst. Is it dripping
from the ceiling above, or is it welling up from the floor
underneath? What the *hell* is going on now?

Then my wife tells me, "oh, I dropped some ice cubes there a
while ago."

Old Chinese proverb, "Fear has many eyes and can see things
underground." They were talking to homeowners.

Jim

[Jeff Wisnia]

Post by jim rozen
There's only so much stuff that can be working correctly
in the universe at one time.

Speaking of bustedness, how many of us have gotten fed up with some POS
product which keeps breaking faster than you can fix it. And you get so
frustrated over wasting your time without obtaining the satisfation of a
"job well done" that....

You just pick up the biggest hammer around and smash the offending item
to bits, then chuck it in the trash barrel to eliminate the possibility
that you'll be tempted to take another frustrating go at fixing it???

Especially when you know that YOU probably could have designed and made
something better in not much more time than you just wasted trying to
fix up the dumb thing anyway.

***************************

I think I've done that about four times in my life and the most recent
one happened this Memorial Day weekend when teen aged son complained
that he couldn't get his '95 Honda Civic to pass state inspection
because the headlights were way out of alignment and the guy at the
inspection station said he couldn't adjust them.

Of course I said, "That's BS son, I'LL fix 'em for you..."

Turns out the girl friend he recently bought the car from had let
someone replace the stock headlights and front parking/turn signals with
some shite aftermarket "Angel Light Projector" units which might have
been this model:

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&tc=photo&item=7977207434&category=33710>

I took a look and realized that while the units fit into the car's front
end just fine there was no way to reach all of the beam alignment screws
because some were located where parts of the car's front end metal
blocked them completely.

We took the light units out of the car and I started testing the
alignment screws (separate sets of three for each low and high beam
assembly). Some seemed to do their thing while turning others didn't
appear to make anything move.

The clear fronts and black plastic backs of the units were glued or heat
sealed together, so there was no easy way to get inside them to reach
the moving parts.

Peering inside down through the light bulb access hole in the back of
the units I saw that one of the reflector adjustment screws had popped
it's ball end out of a plastic socket on the reflector assembly,
probably because some klutz had backed the screw so far out it pulled free.

I set up a 1-1/4" hole saw in the drill press and carefully cut an
access hole through the housing right over that ball and socket joint.
Snapping the joint together was easy then, and I twisted a girdle of
binding wire tightly around the outside of the segmented plastic socket
to help keep a disconnect from happening again.

Checking the second light assembly found a similar disconnected joint,
and I repeated the process on it.

I took the fiberglass resin and hardener out from where they sleep in
the kitchen freezer, warmed them to room temperature and put three
layers of glass cloth over the holes I'd made.

Elapsed time spent so far maybe 2-3/4 hours...

Feeling smug as a bug in a rug we set out to align the headlights by
holding them where they'd mount in the car, seeing which way the beams
needed to move, moving them away from the car, turning the adjusters and
testing them while holding them in place again.

We were "sort of" making progress about a half hour later when I
encountered yet another non-functioning adjustment screw. Peering inside
through the light bulb access hole I saw that this adjuster used a
different style of connection than the two I'd already fixed. It had a
broken plastic piece that would have been as difficult to fix as a
dentist trying to crown a tooth by accessing it solely through the
patient's rectum.

That's when I picked up a four pound hand sledge hammer and ended the
whole foolish exercise.

************************

Postscript:

Son's girl friend still had all the car's original light assemblies in
her basement. She brought them over and we put them in his car. Piece of
cake, requiring only one trip to the parts store to replace a bad bulb.

Lined up the headlight beams in two minutes.

************************

Hopefully young son understands, but the look on his face makes me sort
of doubt it......You do what you have to do, I suppose.

Jeff

[Don Foreman]

On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:58:55 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
<***@conversent.net> wrote:

(snip)

Post by Jeff Wisnia
That's when I picked up a four pound hand sledge hammer and ended the
whole foolish exercise.
************************
Son's girl friend still had all the car's original light assemblies in
her basement. She brought them over and we put them in his car. Piece of
cake, requiring only one trip to the parts store to replace a bad bulb.
Lined up the headlight beams in two minutes.
************************
Hopefully young son understands, but the look on his face makes me sort
of doubt it......You do what you have to do, I suppose.

I doubt it too because it wasn't yours to break. Imagine your
reaction if the guy who said "I can fix your heat pump" smashed it
with a sledge hammer when he found that he couldn't fix it.

[Jim Stewart]

Post by jim rozen
There was an impressive *Pop* from the innards of the heat gun,
and then smoke began to gently waft from the air intake. Turns
out the handle (which had been spinning a bit loose for a while,
this is an elderly Veeco that I've had for years) had finally
spun enough to short the neutral wire against the hot switch
lead.

Ha ha, brings back pain.

The last time I got my heat gun down and
turned it on, I was greeted by dense smoke
and an unpleasant smell. Seems wasps had
built a nest inside the barrel.

[jim rozen]

Post by Jim Stewart
The last time I got my heat gun down and
turned it on, I was greeted by dense smoke
and an unpleasant smell. Seems wasps had
built a nest inside the barrel.

There are some wasps that like to build nests inside
small holes.

I found one of those recently.

I keep a small portable air tank in the garage for
inflating tires, and periodically bring it inside
to recharge it from the house line. The hose and
chuck for it are mounted on a quick-disconnect for
convenience.

Last time I went to use it, I hooked up the the hose,
opened the tank valve, and tried to inflate the tire.
Chuck on the hose acted quite strange - leaky, but
no air was getting to the tire.

Yep, some damn wasp had crawled into the open end
of the QC fitting and begun building a nest.

She got a pretty good suprise though. I had to
dismantle the air chuck to get the debris out
of there so I could use it again.

Jim

[Dave Hinz]

Post by jim rozen
Yep, some damn wasp had crawled into the open end
of the QC fitting and begun building a nest.
She got a pretty good suprise though. I had to
dismantle the air chuck to get the debris out
of there so I could use it again.

We had a frog get sucked into a firetruck's suction line, through
the pump, and he lodged in the strainer in the nozzle. That wasn't a
lot of fun, from the frog's perspective, I wouldn't imagine.

[jim rozen]

Post by Dave Hinz
We had a frog get sucked into a firetruck's suction line, through
the pump, and he lodged in the strainer in the nozzle. That wasn't a
lot of fun, from the frog's perspective, I wouldn't imagine.

I suspect the wasp had a similar high-speed run, with
similar results at the end.

Jim

[Gerald Miller]

Post by jim rozen

Post by Jim Stewart
The last time I got my heat gun down and
turned it on, I was greeted by dense smoke
and an unpleasant smell. Seems wasps had
built a nest inside the barrel.

There are some wasps that like to build nests inside
small holes.
I found one of those recently.
I keep a small portable air tank in the garage for
inflating tires, and periodically bring it inside
to recharge it from the house line. The hose and
chuck for it are mounted on a quick-disconnect for
convenience.
Last time I went to use it, I hooked up the the hose,
opened the tank valve, and tried to inflate the tire.
Chuck on the hose acted quite strange - leaky, but
no air was getting to the tire.
Yep, some damn wasp had crawled into the open end
of the QC fitting and begun building a nest.
She got a pretty good suprise though. I had to
dismantle the air chuck to get the debris out
of there so I could use it again.

Not as bad as the surprise of a nest under the seat of the outhouse!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

[Leo Lichtman]

"Gerald Miller" Not as bad as the surprise of a nest under the seat of the
outhouse!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I had that same experience fifty years ago, and I remember it like it was
yesterday.

[Gunner]

On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 04:47:20 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"

Post by Leo Lichtman
"Gerald Miller" Not as bad as the surprise of a nest under the seat of the
outhouse!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I had that same experience fifty years ago, and I remember it like it was
yesterday.

Over the weekend, I rebuilt the powerfeed on my Clausing 8540
horizontal miller, a box fan (thermal fuze), tigged an old drill press
vise back together..and my wife just called saying her car is making a
tick tick tick noise....

Sigh

Gunner

"Considering the events of recent years,
the world has a long way to go to regain
its credibility and reputation with the US."
unknown

[Gerald Miller]

Post by Gunner
Over the weekend, I rebuilt the powerfeed on my Clausing 8540
horizontal miller, a box fan (thermal fuze), tigged an old drill press
vise back together..and my wife just called saying her car is making a
tick tick tick noise....

Tick tick tick, I don't worry about; it's when SWMBO describes it as
g-blump g-blump g-blump that I get concerned that I might get my hands
dirty installing the "donut"
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

[Ken Davey]

Post by Gunner
On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 04:47:20 GMT, "Leo Lichtman"

Post by Leo Lichtman
"Gerald Miller" Not as bad as the surprise of a nest under the seat
of the outhouse!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I had that same experience fifty years ago, and I remember it like
it was yesterday.

Over the weekend, I rebuilt the powerfeed on my Clausing 8540
horizontal miller, a box fan (thermal fuze), tigged an old drill press
vise back together..and my wife just called saying her car is making a
tick tick tick noise....
Sigh
Gunner

Just picked up my new cistern liner (Thompson Plastics, Souris, Manitoba -
highly recommended) and this means that I have to drain the remaining water
I have in order to install it. This in the beginning of the driest
(predicted) summer on record!

Ok - fixed the cistern. Water have I none.
So is this system fixed or still busted?

Ken (perplexed)

[Bruce L. Bergman]

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:33:01 -0700, "Ken Davey"

Post by Ken Davey
Just picked up my new cistern liner (Thompson Plastics, Souris, Manitoba -
highly recommended) and this means that I have to drain the remaining water
I have in order to install it. This in the beginning of the driest
(predicted) summer on record!
Ok - fixed the cistern. Water have I none.
So is this system fixed or still busted?

I think it all ended up down here a few months ago - we got our
fill, and every drop that Seattle & Portland was supposed to get, too.
Missed "Wettest Winter in Recorded History" by less than an inch.

Last week, Laguna Beach got the 'delayed reaction' effects of a few
acre-feet soaking down to bedrock.

And get out your tractors and shovels and clear a defendable space
folks, the brushfire season might be a bit late arriving but is
probably going to be a real doozy...

--<< Bruce >>--

[Ron DeBlock]

The old heat pump outside unit developed a huge leak a couple of weeks
back. Decided to replace the thing with a AC only unit and fossil-fuel
heat (air/air heat pumps are not the best choice in for my area). Got
the new AC online yesterday morning, just in time for the hottest/muggiest
day of the year (so far).

Put a load of laundry in the dryer last night, turned it on and
went to bed. This morning - wet laundry. The drum tumbles, but the
heating elements don't turn on. :-(

[Gerald Miller]

Post by Ron DeBlock
The old heat pump outside unit developed a huge leak a couple of weeks
back. Decided to replace the thing with a AC only unit and fossil-fuel
heat (air/air heat pumps are not the best choice in for my area). Got
the new AC online yesterday morning, just in time for the hottest/muggiest
day of the year (so far).
Put a load of laundry in the dryer last night, turned it on and
went to bed. This morning - wet laundry. The drum tumbles, but the
heating elements don't turn on. :-(

Fuse in the non motor line?
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

[unknown]

Post by Ron DeBlock
The old heat pump outside unit developed a huge leak a couple of weeks
back. Decided to replace the thing with a AC only unit and fossil-fuel
heat (air/air heat pumps are not the best choice in for my area). Got
the new AC online yesterday morning, just in time for the hottest/muggiest
day of the year (so far).
Put a load of laundry in the dryer last night, turned it on and
went to bed. This morning - wet laundry. The drum tumbles, but the
heating elements don't turn on. :-(
--
Ron DeBlock N2JSO
If God had meant for Man to see the sunrise,
He would have scheduled it later in the day.

One side of the 220v line - sometimes the plug on the end of the
cordset on the dryer gets bad connections inside the molded part - you
may be able to see where the plastic has started to melt and the blade
may be blackened. If so, time to change the cordset. (and maybe the
receptacle, too). HTH
Ken.

[unknown]

Post by Ron DeBlock
The old heat pump outside unit developed a huge leak a couple of weeks
back. Decided to replace the thing with a AC only unit and fossil-fuel
heat (air/air heat pumps are not the best choice in for my area). Got
the new AC online yesterday morning, just in time for the hottest/muggiest
day of the year (so far).
Put a load of laundry in the dryer last night, turned it on and
went to bed. This morning - wet laundry. The drum tumbles, but the
heating elements don't turn on. :-(

Heaters 220 and the motor is 120 ? lost a leg ? Popped a breaker / fuse on the heater.
Might be the xxxx switch on the dryer - selecting the heat.
If that is the case, try a different mode - e.g. permapress or Timed or ....

Martin

[Bruce L. Bergman]

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:19:53 -0500, "lionslair at consolidated dot

Post by unknown

Post by Ron DeBlock
The old heat pump outside unit developed a huge leak a couple of weeks
back. Decided to replace the thing with a AC only unit and fossil-fuel
heat (air/air heat pumps are not the best choice in for my area). Got
the new AC online yesterday morning, just in time for the hottest/muggiest
day of the year (so far).

Yabbut... Heat Pumps work well enough in mild weather, and can be
an economical alternative to oil or propane if the electric rates are
halfway reasonable and the price for your fossil fuel of choice is
spiking at the moment. (And no fuel delivery charges.) Worst case,
it's a backup when you run out of fossil-fuel.

But you can't beat Natural Gas heat for efficiency with a Heat Pump
unless they're practically giving the electricity away (Hydro
generated at off-peak rates) or something very wrong is going on.

Oh well, for you it's a done deal. But it's something for others
here to think about.

Post by unknown

Post by Ron DeBlock
Put a load of laundry in the dryer last night, turned it on and
went to bed. This morning - wet laundry. The drum tumbles, but the
heating elements don't turn on. :-(

Heaters 220 and the motor is 120 ? lost a leg ? Popped a breaker / fuse on the heater.
Might be the xxxx switch on the dryer - selecting the heat.
If that is the case, try a different mode - e.g. permapress or Timed or ....

Same thing with one of the 'temperature setting' Klixon thermostats
in the drum gone permanently open. Same solution - try other cycles
and temperatures that use a different sensor.

Unless it's one of the master overheat/fire sensor Klixon's buried
in the belly of the beast, in which case you'll never get any heat.
Volt-ohmmeter, Wiggy and clamp-amp, and follow the circuits through
the unit.

If you get the repair book with the wiring diagrams and trouble tree
you don't have to parse out the whole circuit, it'll tell you where to
poke the VM probe and there is supposed to be power, or not.

--<< Bruce >>--

[DoN. Nichols]

Post by Bruce L. Bergman
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:19:53 -0500, "lionslair at consolidated dot

[ ... ]

Post by Bruce L. Bergman

Post by unknown

Post by Ron DeBlock
Put a load of laundry in the dryer last night, turned it on and
went to bed. This morning - wet laundry. The drum tumbles, but the
heating elements don't turn on. :-(

Heaters 220 and the motor is 120 ? lost a leg ? Popped a breaker / fuse on the heater.
Might be the xxxx switch on the dryer - selecting the heat.
If that is the case, try a different mode - e.g. permapress or Timed or ....

Same thing with one of the 'temperature setting' Klixon thermostats
in the drum gone permanently open. Same solution - try other cycles
and temperatures that use a different sensor.
Unless it's one of the master overheat/fire sensor Klixon's buried
in the belly of the beast, in which case you'll never get any heat.
Volt-ohmmeter, Wiggy and clamp-amp, and follow the circuits through
the unit.
If you get the repair book with the wiring diagrams and trouble tree
you don't have to parse out the whole circuit, it'll tell you where to
poke the VM probe and there is supposed to be power, or not.

One thing which I discovered (the hard way) is that if you don't
keep the exhaust ducting to the outside clear of a buildup of lint, your
heater will overheat and open. At that point, your task is to replace
the heater. (This was on a Maytag from about 1976 or so.)

Good Luck,
DoN.

[Emmo]

I think his point was that the C of B principle is at work here. If he
fixes the dryer with all your advice, then what will bust next?

As the curator of a big collection of busted stuff, I am masterfully
controlling the turn over by not fixing things too often...

Post by DoN. Nichols

Post by Bruce L. Bergman
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:19:53 -0500, "lionslair at consolidated dot

[ ... ]

Post by Bruce L. Bergman

Post by unknown

Post by Ron DeBlock
Put a load of laundry in the dryer last night, turned it on and
went to bed. This morning - wet laundry. The drum tumbles, but the
heating elements don't turn on. :-(

Heaters 220 and the motor is 120 ? lost a leg ? Popped a breaker / fuse on the heater.
Might be the xxxx switch on the dryer - selecting the heat.
If that is the case, try a different mode - e.g. permapress or Timed or ....

Same thing with one of the 'temperature setting' Klixon thermostats
in the drum gone permanently open. Same solution - try other cycles
and temperatures that use a different sensor.
Unless it's one of the master overheat/fire sensor Klixon's buried
in the belly of the beast, in which case you'll never get any heat.
Volt-ohmmeter, Wiggy and clamp-amp, and follow the circuits through
the unit.
If you get the repair book with the wiring diagrams and trouble tree
you don't have to parse out the whole circuit, it'll tell you where to
poke the VM probe and there is supposed to be power, or not.

One thing which I discovered (the hard way) is that if you don't
keep the exhaust ducting to the outside clear of a buildup of lint, your
heater will overheat and open. At that point, your task is to replace
the heater. (This was on a Maytag from about 1976 or so.)
Good Luck,
DoN.
--
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

[Ron DeBlock]

Post by Bruce L. Bergman
Yabbut... Heat Pumps work well enough in mild weather, and can be
an economical alternative to oil or propane if the electric rates are
halfway reasonable and the price for your fossil fuel of choice is
spiking at the moment. (And no fuel delivery charges.) Worst case,
it's a backup when you run out of fossil-fuel.
But you can't beat Natural Gas heat for efficiency with a Heat Pump
unless they're practically giving the electricity away (Hydro
generated at off-peak rates) or something very wrong is going on.

That depends entirely on one's location. The heat pump works well
in October and April. But, winters here are just too cold, and the
electric "backup" heat is needed much of the time November through
March.

Many houses in my neighborhood were built with heat pumps or electric
resistance heating - I guess the economics were different back in the late
'60s and early '70s. Many houses have been converted to oil or
propane since then. Natural gas is not available in my town, so I went
with oil, which the least expensive and most common around these parts.

My backup heat is a wood stove. Burning wood has been required to avoid
$500 electric bills in January and February. I estimate $250 for
oil for each of those months. I collect/cut/chop my firewood for
free, but that is a LOT of work. Firewood sold for $195/cord last winter!

Post by Bruce L. Bergman
If you get the repair book with the wiring diagrams and trouble tree
you don't have to parse out the whole circuit, it'll tell you where to
poke the VM probe and there is supposed to be power, or not.

I have the repair book around here somewhere, along with the book for the
washer. They're both Whirlpools, 18 years old. I've replaced the motor
in the washer and the rollers in the dryer, both repairs were simple.

[woodworker88]

I just look at it as a way to get new tools!
Some recent examples:

Garbage disposal leaks internally->reciprocating saw to cut off rusted
hanging bolts connecting to sink flange.

Need to make 3" hole in plywood subfloor to inspect floor cavity->3"
hole saw->1/2"shank arbor->1/2" corded drill in addition to 3/8" corded
and cordless I already have.

2600 lb excello mill (bridgeport clone) needs moving from shipping
crate to tool room inside school shop. No new tools, but 3 days and 5
2 1/2 ton rolling shop jacks +pipes+boards/levers etc. Also need to
remove table and leadscrew to get machine thru 36" doorway. We think
table weighs ~200 lbs, actually 500+, table falls, nearly smashes hand,
nearly forces us to buy new socket set for angry autoshop teacher (we
were lucky it only smashed the sheet metal case). Then we had to
slide, "walk" table onto hand cart to wheel to autoshop to use 2 ton
chain hoist to lift onto cart, then wheel back to tool room and slide
onto ways. Reinstall leadscrew, then 2 months of fixing: noone was
paying close attention to leadscrew assembly when removed from
machine-> "Where does this part go?" also 3 weeks to replace busted
one-shot hose. also gibs all screwed up. Finally, machine all ready
to go, only need three phase power installed. Power is in electrical
panel less than 4 feet away, but school shop, typical beurocratic
nightmare, etc.
Hmm. Did that toilet sound right? If it didn't, I'm not going to be
happy. In the last 2 months, 6-8 toilet repairs. There are 3 toilets
in my house. Ugh!