Etymological question -- "waller" a hole

[Tim Wescott]

The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").

Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.

[Lloyd E. Sponenburgh]

Post by Tim Wescott
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.

Actually, Tim, 'waller a hole' is a regional dialectic of "wallow a
hole".

And that comes from the noun 'wallow' which is shallow hole (usually in
which animals -typically pigs- like to bathe for fun or profit.

So, to "wallow a hole" means to just dig one out irregularly, as would a
pig trying to make a bathing hole.

LLoyd

[Tim Wescott]

Post by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

Post by Tim Wescott
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.

Actually, Tim, 'waller a hole' is a regional dialectic of "wallow a
hole".
And that comes from the noun 'wallow' which is shallow hole (usually in
which animals -typically pigs- like to bathe for fun or profit.
So, to "wallow a hole" means to just dig one out irregularly, as would a
pig trying to make a bathing hole.
LLoyd

I had considered the "wallow" connection but didn't make the mental leap
from there to "make a hole as if you're a pig".

It makes perfect sense. And the folks in question would definitely turn
"wallow" into "waller" -- I just didn't want to inaccurize the word by
trying to "clean it up".

So -- do you know anyone else that uses the term?

[Lloyd E. Sponenburgh]

Post by Tim Wescott
So -- do you know anyone else that uses the term?

Pretty much everywhere in the deep South, you'll hear it used. And
although the Mason-Dixon line might disagree, I'd include 'deep South' to
mean just about anything south of southern Ohio on down.

Lloyd

[Doug Miller]

Post by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

Post by Tim Wescott
So -- do you know anyone else that uses the term?

Pretty much everywhere in the deep South, you'll hear it used. And
although the Mason-Dixon line might disagree, I'd include 'deep South' to
mean just about anything south of southern Ohio on down.

I've heard it often enough in Indianapolis to know what it means. So it's not just the South.

[Osumcat404]

The dictionary online as well as a Wikipedia tells me it's a US slang pejorative. Meaning precisely what is said about although I've never heard it used in reference to pigs or anything other than like a mechanical use but not on purpose usually as a way of saying this needs to be replaced because for whatever reason it won't hold or whatever the intended use it's now wallored out so therefore we need to replace

[Terry Coombs]

Post by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

Post by Tim Wescott
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention
or if it's a word of real usage.

Actually, Tim, 'waller a hole' is a regional dialectic of "wallow a
hole".
And that comes from the noun 'wallow' which is shallow hole (usually
in which animals -typically pigs- like to bathe for fun or profit.
So, to "wallow a hole" means to just dig one out irregularly, as
would a pig trying to make a bathing hole.
LLoyd

Actually Lloyd , the term "waller a hole out" is in common usage both in
the northern Utahaha area where I grew up and in west Tennessee where we've
lived the last 30 years or so , also in the southern Ozarks where I now live
.

[Lloyd E. Sponenburgh]

Post by Terry Coombs
Actually Lloyd , the term "waller a hole out" is in common usage both in
the northern Utahaha area where I grew up and in west Tennessee where
we've lived the last 30 years or so , also in the southern Ozarks
where I now live

How does that disagree with what I said. "Regional" can cover a lot of
regions.

If someone has any sort of drawl, they're likely to 1) come from a region
where most folks have one, too, and 2) are likely to use that term
instead of "wallow".

LLoyd

[Terry Coombs]

Post by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

Post by Terry Coombs
Actually Lloyd , the term "waller a hole out" is in common usage both in
the northern Utahaha area where I grew up and in west Tennessee where
we've lived the last 30 years or so , also in the southern Ozarks
where I now live

How does that disagree with what I said. "Regional" can cover a lot
of regions.
If someone has any sort of drawl, they're likely to 1) come from a
region where most folks have one, too, and 2) are likely to use that
term instead of "wallow".
LLoyd

Ah , but Utahaha is famous for it's "neutral" accent . And yet ... I'd
guess dialectic oddities can be spread out over a number of geographic
locales , depends on just where the "settlers" in a particular region came
from .

[e***@whidbey.com]

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:34:12 -0600, Tim Wescott

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.

Don't know the exact etymology but I've heard it often enough. I
imagine it comes from "wallow", like wallowing around in a mud hole.
And because mud holes are rarely round they must be "wallered, er,
wallowed, out".
Eric

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[BillinGA]

Straying a little from waller....not born here but been in GA many, many years. Two terms my northern transplant friends enjoy pointing out are use of "fixing" and "mash". One meaning someone who had been made fun of for their drawl might be "fixin'" to apply a severe thrashing and the other refers to pushing the accelerator or selecting a floor on the elevator menu.....mash the gas or mash the button. I know of two guys, one from Kentucky and the other from West Virginia....both use "postes" and "colyums" when talking about the plural of a wood post and columns.

[Jim Wilkins]

"BillinGA" <***@att.net> wrote in message news:b59cdad1-fb7c-4a71-93f0-***@googlegroups.com...
Straying a little from waller....not born here but been in GA many,
many years. Two terms my northern transplant friends enjoy pointing
out are use of "fixing" and "mash". One meaning someone who had been
made fun of for their drawl might be "fixin'" to apply a severe
thrashing and the other refers to pushing the accelerator or selecting
a floor on the elevator menu.....mash the gas or mash the button. I
know of two guys, one from Kentucky and the other from West
Virginia....both use "postes" and "colyums" when talking about the
plural of a wood post and columns.

================
I never quite understood the meaning of ":feature".

[John B.]

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:34:12 -0600, Tim Wescott

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.

I think it may be a universal term. I know it was commonly used by
USAF aircraft sheetmetal men on several bases in several countries :-)

Commonly used when one drilled several rivet holes and after driving
the first rivet discovered that the holes didn't perfectly line up and
you can't get the remaining rivets in the holes, so you waller the
holes out a bit.

[DoN. Nichols]

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.

I've heard it -- though usually pronounced as "wallowed" rather
than "wallered". And I usually interpret it as tilting an electric
drill in various directions while running so the hole is made a little
larger.

The pronunciation is likely influenced by regional artifacts. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

[Gunner Asch]

On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 12:34:12 -0600, Tim Wescott

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.

Very common. Wallowed out

Full Definition of WALLOW
1
to roll oneself about in a lazy, relaxed, or ungainly manner <hogs
wallowing in the mud>
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Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I have heard the term "wallered out" quite a bit. I am an ASE certified
mechanic of 11 years and I have a degree in Automotive Technology (so not
shade tree lol). I refrain from using it because I do not want to sound
like a redneck. I think it might be more of a dialect-related slang than
an actual word. Here in Missouri, people know what it means. I used it
recently: "Your door latch mechanism has become wallered out. This is
causing too much free play in the latch when the door is closed..."

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Post by Ryan O.

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in
the sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the
bolt was loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with
contempt for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in
an uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits
right"). Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family
invention or if it's a word of real usage. -- Tim Wescott Wescott
Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com

I have heard the term "wallered out" quite a bit. I am an ASE certified
mechanic of 11 years and I have a degree in Automotive Technology (so not
shade tree lol). I refrain from using it because I do not want to sound
like a redneck. I think it might be more of a dialect-related slang than
an actual word. Here in Missouri, people know what it means. I used it
recently: "Your door latch mechanism has become wallered out. This is
causing too much free play in the latch when the door is closed..."

It is also known in the High Plains region, anyway; I'd guess most all
of the farm country would be reasonably common but that's only from
having been familiar to me since childhood on a farm in SW KS.
Certainly then was also known in E TN while were there.

I have always presumed it's a bastardization/colloquialism derived from
_wallow_

<http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wallow>

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[Gunner Asch]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:18:04 +0000, Ryan O.

Post by Ryan O.

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I have heard the term "wallered out" quite a bit. I am an ASE certified
mechanic of 11 years and I have a degree in Automotive Technology (so not
shade tree lol). I refrain from using it because I do not want to sound
like a redneck. I think it might be more of a dialect-related slang than
an actual word. Here in Missouri, people know what it means. I used it
recently: "Your door latch mechanism has become wallered out. This is
causing too much free play in the latch when the door is closed..."

Its very common. Its "southern" for: "wallowed" out..which is actually
a very clear and concise discription of how the hole was made
larger....

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wallowed

- an indolent or clumsy rolling aboutwallow - an indolent or clumsy
rolling about;

axial motion, axial rotation, roll - rotary motion of an object around
its own axis; "wheels in axial rotation"

One wallows out a hole with drill bit to make it larger than the drill
diameter, Post holes, leather pants belt holes etc etc.

Gunner



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Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I grew up in Northern Illinois and have lived in various northern places
in the US. We always used the term, wallered, to talk about what happen
when you have enlarged a hole, like for a bold that uses an allen wrench,
that has become worn with usage and the allen wrench slips. Same thing for
Phillips head screw and to a lesser extent, slot head screws.

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:18:02 +0000, Bike Rider

Post by Bike Rider

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I grew up in Northern Illinois and have lived in various northern places
in the US. We always used the term, wallered, to talk about what happen
when you have enlarged a hole, like for a bold that uses an allen wrench,
that has become worn with usage and the allen wrench slips. Same thing for
Phillips head screw and to a lesser extent, slot head screws.

It was a common term when I was in the Air Force, the sheetmetal guys
used to say things like "just waller out the hole till it fits",
meaning to twist the drill around to make it cut a larger hole.

I always assumed that it was a corruption of the word "wallow" which
can mean "an indolent or clumsy rolling about".
--
cheers,

John B.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

Post by John B.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:18:02 +0000, Bike Rider

Post by Bike Rider

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I grew up in Northern Illinois and have lived in various northern places
in the US. We always used the term, wallered, to talk about what happen
when you have enlarged a hole, like for a bold that uses an allen wrench,
that has become worn with usage and the allen wrench slips. Same thing for
Phillips head screw and to a lesser extent, slot head screws.

It was a common term when I was in the Air Force, the sheetmetal guys
used to say things like "just waller out the hole till it fits",
meaning to twist the drill around to make it cut a larger hole.
I always assumed that it was a corruption of the word "wallow" which
can mean "an indolent or clumsy rolling about".

Definitely from the word "wallow".

A hog wallow or a hippo wallow are both sloppy holes, enlarged by
"wallerin" around"

[Martin Eastburn]

I'm with JohnB on this one.

Wallow as a noun:
a puddle where animals go to wallow
an indolent or clumsy rolling about
roary motion of an object around its own axis << wallow a hole
a puddle of mud

As verbs:
devote oneself entirely to something; indulge in to an immoderate
degree, usally with pleasure

roll around, "Pigs were wallowing in the mud"
rise up as in waves
be ecstatic with joy
delight greatly in

Martin - from the Visual Thesaurus:wallow

Post by John B.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:18:02 +0000, Bike Rider

Post by Bike Rider

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I grew up in Northern Illinois and have lived in various northern places
in the US. We always used the term, wallered, to talk about what happen
when you have enlarged a hole, like for a bold that uses an allen wrench,
that has become worn with usage and the allen wrench slips. Same thing for
Phillips head screw and to a lesser extent, slot head screws.

It was a common term when I was in the Air Force, the sheetmetal guys
used to say things like "just waller out the hole till it fits",
meaning to twist the drill around to make it cut a larger hole.
I always assumed that it was a corruption of the word "wallow" which
can mean "an indolent or clumsy rolling about".
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cheers,
John B.

[Ryan O]

Post by Martin Eastburn
I'm with JohnB on this one.
a puddle where animals go to wallow
an indolent or clumsy rolling about
roary motion of an object around its own axis << wallow a hole
a puddle of mud
devote oneself entirely to something; indulge in to an immoderate
degree, usally with pleasure
roll around, "Pigs were wallowing in the mud"
rise up as in waves
be ecstatic with joy
delight greatly in
Martin - from the Visual Thesaurus:wallow

Alice in Chains song Sea of Sorrow has the following lyrics in the chorus:

"I live tomorrow, you'll not follow
As you wallow in a sea of sorrow"

[Gunner Asch]

Post by John B.
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:18:02 +0000, Bike Rider

Post by Bike Rider

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I grew up in Northern Illinois and have lived in various northern places
in the US. We always used the term, wallered, to talk about what happen
when you have enlarged a hole, like for a bold that uses an allen wrench,
that has become worn with usage and the allen wrench slips. Same thing for
Phillips head screw and to a lesser extent, slot head screws.

It was a common term when I was in the Air Force, the sheetmetal guys
used to say things like "just waller out the hole till it fits",
meaning to twist the drill around to make it cut a larger hole.
I always assumed that it was a corruption of the word "wallow" which
can mean "an indolent or clumsy rolling about".

It also means a rough hole. IE buffalo wallows etc etc

[Mohammed was a pedophile]

The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole" [...]

gummer arsch has wallered his own hole quite a lot the last few years.

[Gunner Asch]

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The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole" [...]

gummer arsch has wallered his own hole quite a lot the last few years.

Your just unhappy that I wont let you suck my dick. Sorry pal...unlike
you..Im not queer. Not that there is anything wrong with gay people
like you. Frankly...no one pays any attention to you swallowing quarts
of other mens semen. Its the buffoonery you do here that makes folks
cringe.

Gunner

[Nickolas Crosby]

replying to Tim Wescott, Nickolas Crosby wrote:
Checking in a few years later, but just searched this out when someone poked
fun at me saying "wallered out" at work. I'm in Northern Utah and everyone
that works construction/fabrication/hotrodshops, etc... all use wallered, not
wallowed.
Reaming out is commonly used for drilling a hole to a larger size, wallered is
for when you really wiggle the drill around to work out the angles like some
sort of savage.

[dpb]

Post by Nickolas Crosby
Checking in a few years later, but just searched this out when someone
poked fun at me saying "wallered out" at work. ...

And a very good word it is, too! :)

Here we have the remnants of buffalo wallers in native grass that hasn't
been broken out (plowed) as another use of the term.

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[Garth]

replying to Tim Wescott, Garth wrote:
So I’ve been trying to figure up why the 20 something’s don’t know what
waller means in Texas. Which leads to ream, gape, and my own word inbiggin.
Using the same or bigger paddle bit makes an irregular hole in wood which
doesn’t match my definition of ream. I use a #40 reamer to match drill #41
holes in aluminum which ends up with far cleaner holes and less burrs than
using a 40 drill bit. I also use ream to refer to removing burrs in copper and
plastic pipe cuts. Sort of sad not to find waller in the dictionary...

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[Larry Jaques]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 03:18:02 GMT, Garth

Post by Garth
So I’ve been trying to figure up why the 20 something’s don’t know what
waller means in Texas. Which leads to ream, gape, and my own word inbiggin.
Using the same or bigger paddle bit makes an irregular hole in wood which
doesn’t match my definition of ream. I use a #40 reamer to match drill #41
holes in aluminum which ends up with far cleaner holes and less burrs than
using a 40 drill bit. I also use ream to refer to removing burrs in copper and
plastic pipe cuts. Sort of sad not to find waller in the dictionary...

I'm sure you'll find it in the Redneck's Dicshunary.
"Wallow" is in the rest.

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[Leon Fisk]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:17:40 -0700
Larry Jaques <***@invalid.diversifycomm.com> wrote:

<snip>

Post by Larry Jaques
I'm sure you'll find it in the Redneck's Dicshunary.
"Wallow" is in the rest.

Read through some of these defs:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Waller

More than one way to 'waller' a hole it seems ;-)

[Larry Jaques]

Post by Leon Fisk
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:17:40 -0700
<snip>

Post by Larry Jaques
I'm sure you'll find it in the Redneck's Dicshunary.
"Wallow" is in the rest.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Waller
More than one way to 'waller' a hole it seems ;-)

The UD is a hoot, isn't it? I've used it mostly to find out what all
the SJW terms meant.

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(Something for the Powers That Be to remember, eh?)

[Wizkid]

replying to Tim Wescott, Wizkid wrote:
In Texas we use “waller” out a hole to refer to tweaking the size of a
too-small hole to make it “just right” (slightly, but immeasurably
bigger). I have an English degree but am not too snobby to use a
colloquialism when it is fitting and succinct.

[DoN. Nichols]

Post by Wizkid
In Texas we use “waller” out a hole to refer to tweaking the size of a
too-small hole to make it “just right” (slightly, but immeasurably
bigger). I have an English degree but am not too snobby to use a
colloquialism when it is fitting and succinct.

How old is this thread? I seem to remember it popping up
several times in the last few years.

Enjoy,
DoN.

[Tammera Thomason]

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I'm a court reporter. I am working on a transcript where an 85-yr-old witness from Georgia
is talking about drilling a hole in an electrical panel box.
He says: You put a drill bit in your drill motor and *chuck it down and drill a wall.
Sometimes you used a center punch to make sure you don't *wallow off the hole."

[Ned Simmons]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2021 13:05:18 -0700 (PDT), Tammera Thomason

Post by Tammera Thomason

Post by Tim Wescott
The sons of the family mechanic talked about "wallering a hole", in the
sense of "to wear and enlarge in an uncontrolled manner" ("the bolt was
loose and wallered out the hole, now it don't fit"), or (with contempt
for shade-tree mechanics) "to intentionally enlarge a hole in an
uncontrolled manner" ("that <deleted> just wallered out those holes
instead of using a drill bit of the proper size, now nuthin' fits right").
Has anyone else seen this? I'm curious if it was a family invention or
if it's a word of real usage.
--
Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

I'm a court reporter. I am working on a transcript where an 85-yr-old witness from Georgia
is talking about drilling a hole in an electrical panel box.
He says: You put a drill bit in your drill motor and *chuck it down and drill a wall.
Sometimes you used a center punch to make sure you don't *wallow off the hole."

A center punch makes a small indentation that minimizes the tendency
of a drill to skate away from the desired location when starting a
hole. You could reasonably interpret the statement "wallow off the
hole" to mean "wander from the intended location of the hole."

[Osumcat2404]

It doesn't always mean intentional I've never heard it using this way My mother is a mechanic and a machinist and she talks about it when there is a washer that doesn't work anymore because it's been used too much or when a sink won't quit dripping because the washer's walleted out or even a boat the threads can be rollered out to the point that it's no longer of good use I've never heard of it use intentionally I've heard of it used when it's time to replace. My husband is also a mechanic My family is from above and below the Mason-Dixon line but I do think it's mainly a southern thin

[Clare Snyder]

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 04:17:56 +0000, Osumcat2404

It doesn't always mean intentional I've never heard it using this way My mother is a mechanic and a machinist and she talks about it when there is a washer that doesn't work anymore because it's been used too much or when a sink won't quit dripping because the washer's walleted out or even a boat the threads can be rollered out to the point that it's no longer of good use I've never heard of it use intentionally I've heard of it used when it's time to replace. My husband is also a mechanic My family is from above and below the Mason-Dixon line but I do think it's mainly a southern thing

It's southern slanf for wallow - as in a Hog Wallow - a mud-hole dug
out or yallowed out by a hog. Used to describe a hole that has been
enlarged unintentionally by being a loose fit - wallered out

[Jim Wilkins]

"Clare Snyder" wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 04:17:56 +0000, Osumcat2404
<***@example.com> wrote:

It's southern slanf for wallow - as in a Hog Wallow - a mud-hole dug
out or yallowed out by a hog. Used to describe a hole that has been
enlarged unintentionally by being a loose fit - wallered out

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The hogs on my uncle's farm in the red clay flatlands of Georgia had turned
all of their pen into a gooey smelly waller, but Grandpa's on the mountain
hadn't. Different soil and better drainage, I reckon.

They have some different language and pronunciation there that they loved to
tease us NH Yankees with. A peCAHN is a nut, a pee-can is a urinal.

https://www.southernliving.com/culture/sayings/southern-sayings

https://wanderwisdom.com/travel-destinations/A-Guide-to-Southern-Accents

TV announcers in Atlanta talk in the standard "Midwestern" accent which
seemed to be slowly taking over.

I could like living there if it wasn't so hot and humid in summer. It's 57F
in here and I've acclimated to it.

[John Hickey]

On an excavator's youtube work channel out of Derby Indiana, called Dirt Pefect, I just heard them say that vehicles repeatedly going through a low area in a filed had "wallered out a ditch."
In rural West Virginia I often heard this term used to mean the unintentional widening of a hole, like a bolt hole, and I may have heard it usd to meana the intentional wiening of a hole.
What I have not heard discussed here (?) is its use to mean the wearing away of threads on a bolt, which I also heard in West Virginia from auto mechanics

[Snag]

Post by John Hickey
On an excavator's youtube work channel out of Derby Indiana, called Dirt
Pefect, I just heard them say that vehicles repeatedly going through a
low area in a filed had "wallered out a ditch."
In rural West Virginia I often heard this term used to mean the
unintentional widening of a hole, like a bolt hole, and I may have heard
it usd to meana the intentional wiening of a hole.
What I have not heard discussed here (?) is its use to mean the wearing
away of threads on a bolt, which I also heard in West Virginia from auto
mechanics.

Yer about 3 years late to the discussion , fuckwit .

[Jim Wilkins]

"John Hickey" wrote in message news:17f0feb33995a074$15415$2754825$***@news.newsgroupdirect.com...

On an excavator's youtube work channel out of Derby Indiana, called Dirt
Pefect, I just heard them say that vehicles repeatedly going through a low
area in a filed had "wallered out a ditch."
In rural West Virginia I often heard this term used to mean the
unintentional widening of a hole, like a bolt hole, and I may have heard it
usd to meana the intentional wiening of a hole.
What I have not heard discussed here (?) is its use to mean the wearing away
of threads on a bolt, which I also heard in West Virginia from auto
mechanics.
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The South has lots of localisms, such as "feature" meaning resemble, i.e.
you feature your dad. However TV announcers in Atlanta (and Boston) speak
like the rest of the US.

[pyotr filipivich]

John Hickey <***@example.com> on Sun, 01
Sep 2024 02:45:03 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the

Post by John Hickey
On an excavator's youtube work channel out of Derby Indiana, called Dirt Pefect, I just heard them say that vehicles repeatedly going through a low area in a filed had "wallered out a ditch."
In rural West Virginia I often heard this term used to mean the unintentional widening of a hole, like a bolt hole, and I may have heard it usd to meana the intentional wiening of a hole.
What I have not heard discussed here (?) is its use to mean the wearing away of threads on a bolt, which I also heard in West Virginia from auto mechanics.

"Waller" comes from making a "wallow" - what pigs do in mud,
mostly to stay cool.
A waller not a well defined hole, so it is what happens to roads,
holes you drill that for some reason are more oval than round, or
holes / spots which over time have become out of spec if they ever
were one.

[Bob La Londe]

Post by pyotr filipivich
Sep 2024 02:45:03 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the

Post by John Hickey
On an excavator's youtube work channel out of Derby Indiana, called Dirt Pefect, I just heard them say that vehicles repeatedly going through a low area in a filed had "wallered out a ditch."
In rural West Virginia I often heard this term used to mean the unintentional widening of a hole, like a bolt hole, and I may have heard it usd to meana the intentional wiening of a hole.
What I have not heard discussed here (?) is its use to mean the wearing away of threads on a bolt, which I also heard in West Virginia from auto mechanics.

"Waller" comes from making a "wallow" - what pigs do in mud,
mostly to stay cool.
A waller not a well defined hole, so it is what happens to roads,
holes you drill that for some reason are more oval than round, or
holes / spots which over time have become out of spec if they ever
were one.

What about drilled holes that come out trianguloid in shape?

[Jim Wilkins]

Post by pyotr filipivich
Sep 2024 02:45:03 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the

Post by John Hickey
On an excavator's youtube work channel out of Derby Indiana, called Dirt
Pefect, I just heard them say that vehicles repeatedly going through a
low area in a filed had "wallered out a ditch."
In rural West Virginia I often heard this term used to mean the
unintentional widening of a hole, like a bolt hole, and I may have heard
it usd to meana the intentional wiening of a hole.
What I have not heard discussed here (?) is its use to mean the wearing
away of threads on a bolt, which I also heard in West Virginia from auto
mechanics.

"Waller" comes from making a "wallow" - what pigs do in mud,
mostly to stay cool.
A waller not a well defined hole, so it is what happens to roads,
holes you drill that for some reason are more oval than round, or
holes / spots which over time have become out of spec if they ever
were one.

What about drilled holes that come out trianguloid in shape?
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff

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Dunno 'bout that, but a 3-cornered drill that makes a square hole is a
Reuleaux triangle.
https://www.mikesenese.com/DOIT/2011/10/drilling-square-holes-with-a-reuleaux-triangle/

Reinventing the wheel was a fun pastime at Segway. I knew about and
suggested an Omniwheel.

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by Bob La Londe

Post by pyotr filipivich
Sep 2024 02:45:03 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the

Post by John Hickey
On an excavator's youtube work channel out of Derby Indiana, called Dirt Pefect, I just heard them say that vehicles repeatedly going through a low area in a filed had "wallered out a ditch."
In rural West Virginia I often heard this term used to mean the unintentional widening of a hole, like a bolt hole, and I may have heard it usd to meana the intentional wiening of a hole.
What I have not heard discussed here (?) is its use to mean the wearing away of threads on a bolt, which I also heard in West Virginia from auto mechanics.

"Waller" comes from making a "wallow" - what pigs do in mud,
mostly to stay cool.
A waller not a well defined hole, so it is what happens to roads,
holes you drill that for some reason are more oval than round, or
holes / spots which over time have become out of spec if they ever
were one.

What about drilled holes that come out trianguloid in shape?

We don't talk about such goings on.