HAAS Tooling

[Bob La Londe]

My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop. Primarily they have a couple
HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
equipment. He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the
other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
it) We got to geeking about things. One thing I suggested to him a
while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines. He
asked and they agreed. They even went the extra expense of bringing out
somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications. Part of the courses
are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person.
Most people travel to their HQ for that. The university is bringing
somebody out from HAAS.

One of the other things we talked about was tooling. The university has
a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling. Sounds at
first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but
no. The price of just about everything I looked up was really good.
New CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay. A
Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other
source I have found. I might actually buy one at that price... with a
whole box of spare probes of course. LOL. I didn't look at everything
obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very
reasonable. That is not some special educator price either. That's the
price you or I would pay.

They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the
machines. They baulked when it was as much as another machine. LOL.

His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician. Okay maybe that's
the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third. He is also a full
time engineering student. He already has several AA degrees and is
working on his BA. That's his primary job.

[Bob La Londe]

Post by Bob La Londe
My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop.  Primarily they have a couple
HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
equipment.  He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the
other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
it)  We got to geeking about things.  One thing I suggested to him a
while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines.  He
asked and they agreed.  They even went the extra expense of bringing out
somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications.  Part of the courses
are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person. Most
people travel to their HQ for that.  The university is bringing somebody
out from HAAS.
One of the other things we talked about was tooling.  The university has
a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling.  Sounds at
first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but
no.  The price of just about everything I looked up was really good. New
CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay.  A
Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other
source I have found.  I might actually buy one at that price... with a
whole box of spare probes of course.  LOL.  I didn't look at everything
obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very
reasonable.  That is not some special educator price either.  That's the
price you or I would pay.
They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the
machines.  They baulked when it was as much as another machine.  LOL.
His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician.  Okay maybe that's
the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third.  He is also a full
time engineering student.  He already has several AA degrees and is
working on his BA.  That's his primary job.

Okay, I checked some other stuff and some of it is pretty daffy
expensive, but there is still a lot that is crazy competitive.

[Gerry]

Post by Bob La Londe

Post by Bob La Londe
My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop.  Primarily they have a couple
HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
equipment.  He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the
other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
it)  We got to geeking about things.  One thing I suggested to him a
while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines.  He
asked and they agreed.  They even went the extra expense of bringing out
somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications.  Part of the courses
are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person. Most
people travel to their HQ for that.  The university is bringing somebody
out from HAAS.
One of the other things we talked about was tooling.  The university has
a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling.  Sounds at
first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but
no.  The price of just about everything I looked up was really good. New
CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay.  A
Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other
source I have found.  I might actually buy one at that price... with a
whole box of spare probes of course.  LOL.  I didn't look at everything
obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very
reasonable.  That is not some special educator price either.  That's the
price you or I would pay.
They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the
machines.  They baulked when it was as much as another machine.  LOL.
His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician.  Okay maybe that's
the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third.  He is also a full
time engineering student.  He already has several AA degrees and is
working on his BA.  That's his primary job.

Okay, I checked some other stuff and some of it is pretty daffy
expensive, but there is still a lot that is crazy competitive.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff

You have a son to be proud of!

[Bob La Londe]

Post by Gerry
You have a son to be proud of!

Thank you. Yeah, he's a better man than me.

[Jim Wilkins]

Post by Bob La Londe

Post by Bob La Londe
My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop. Primarily they have a couple
HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
equipment. He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the
other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
it) We got to geeking about things. One thing I suggested to him a
while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines. He
asked and they agreed. They even went the extra expense of bringing out
somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications. Part of the courses
are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person. Most
people travel to their HQ for that. The university is bringing somebody
out from HAAS.
One of the other things we talked about was tooling. The university has
a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling. Sounds at
first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but
no. The price of just about everything I looked up was really good. New
CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay. A
Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other
source I have found. I might actually buy one at that price... with a
whole box of spare probes of course. LOL. I didn't look at everything
obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very
reasonable. That is not some special educator price either. That's the
price you or I would pay.
They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the
machines. They baulked when it was as much as another machine. LOL.
His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician. Okay maybe that's
the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third. He is also a full
time engineering student. He already has several AA degrees and is
working on his BA. That's his primary job.

Okay, I checked some other stuff and some of it is pretty daffy
expensive, but there is still a lot that is crazy competitive.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff

You have a son to be proud of!

--------------------------------
With that skill mix he could do well in biotech instrumentation, robotic
surgery machines or pharmaceutical manufacturing. My skill mix of chemistry
+ physics, electronics and machining got me good and interesting prototyping
jobs where I fleshed out the initial concept and then built it. A design
engineer who understands manufacturing can avoid the expensive wrong turns
engineers who don't know it can make. Even senior mechanical engineers can
miss practical details, at Segway I introduced one to PEM nuts for simple
and secure blind attachments to sheet aluminum, which he had avoided using
in a robot because he didn't trust sheet metal screws.
jsw

[Bob La Londe]

Post by Gerry

Post by Bob La Londe

Post by Bob La Londe
My son got a second job as the guy taking care of, helping with setups,
etc at the NAU (Yuma Campus) machine shop.  Primarily they have a couple
HAAS Mini Mill 2 VMCs, and a TL1 lathe... along with some other
equipment.  He was over helping me install some equipment in my shop the
other day. (He's skinny enough to get behind some stuff without moving
it)  We got to geeking about things.  One thing I suggested to him a
while back is to see if he could get the university to pay the for the
cost of him taking the HAAS certification courses on those machines.  He
asked and they agreed.  They even went the extra expense of bringing out
somebody from HAAS to complete the certifications.  Part of the courses
are on-line, but you have to do the final certifications in person. Most
people travel to their HQ for that.  The university is bringing somebody
out from HAAS.
One of the other things we talked about was tooling.  The university has
a deal with HAAS where they have to use all HAAS tooling.  Sounds at
first like they got educator prices on machines, and then got stuck, but
no.  The price of just about everything I looked up was really good. New
CT40 tool holders for less than the price of used ones on eBay.  A
Haimer 3D taster for a little more than 25% less than the CHEAPEST other
source I have found.  I might actually buy one at that price... with a
whole box of spare probes of course.  LOL.  I didn't look at everything
obviously, but the price for the HAAS tooling we looked at is very
reasonable.  That is not some special educator price either.  That's the
price you or I would pay.
They asked Rob (my son) to give them a list of tooling he wanted for the
machines.  They baulked when it was as much as another machine.  LOL.
His first job is as a licensed pharmacy technician.  Okay maybe that's
the 2nd job and the NAU machine shop is the third.  He is also a full
time engineering student.  He already has several AA degrees and is
working on his BA.  That's his primary job.

Okay, I checked some other stuff and some of it is pretty daffy
expensive, but there is still a lot that is crazy competitive.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff

You have a son to be proud of!
--------------------------------
With that skill mix he could do well in biotech instrumentation, robotic
surgery machines or pharmaceutical manufacturing. My skill mix of
chemistry + physics, electronics and machining got me good and
interesting prototyping jobs where I fleshed out the initial concept and
then built it. A design engineer who understands manufacturing can avoid
the expensive wrong turns engineers who don't know it can make. Even
senior mechanical engineers can miss practical details, at Segway I
introduced one to PEM nuts for simple and secure blind attachments to
sheet aluminum, which he had avoided using in a robot because he didn't
trust sheet metal screws.
jsw

I'm more impressed that he's doing it without running up debt. He and
his significant other are looking for a house. If they find something
that will shoot that in the foot though. I was looking at houses listed
locally on Realtor dot com and the cheapest house (shack really) with
land (postage stamp size) listed was 125,000. It wasn't that long ago a
buddy of mine was buying up repos for 20-60 grand.