Discussion:
Small cyclone separator bins
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b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-09 16:32:34 UTC
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Apologies if this is considered off topic, but maybe a shop
worker knows where to find what I'm looking for.

For several years now I'ved used a small cyclone separator and
shop vac in an over-the-shoulder arrangement for outdoor cleanup
and sometimes confined space excavation in soil. Here's an image:
Loading Image...

The problem is the lid on the plastic bucket: The buckets, despite
being throwaways, hold up fine. The lids, not so much. Usually they
crack at the outer edge. Even a tiny leak below the cyclone totally
disrupts the separation process and the lid has to be replaced.

I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
suitable. A stout, wide mouth plastic jar with either a flat side or
a lid big enough to mate to the 5" bottom flange on the cyclone is
what I've sought to no avail.

Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?

Thanks for reading,

bob prohaska
Joe Gwinn
2024-11-09 16:40:53 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Apologies if this is considered off topic, but maybe a shop
worker knows where to find what I'm looking for.
For several years now I'ved used a small cyclone separator and
shop vac in an over-the-shoulder arrangement for outdoor cleanup
<http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG>
The problem is the lid on the plastic bucket: The buckets, despite
being throwaways, hold up fine. The lids, not so much. Usually they
crack at the outer edge. Even a tiny leak below the cyclone totally
disrupts the separation process and the lid has to be replaced.
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
suitable. A stout, wide mouth plastic jar with either a flat side or
a lid big enough to mate to the 5" bottom flange on the cyclone is
what I've sought to no avail.
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
I'd call ULINE and ask.

.<https://www.uline.com/BL_8150/Plastic-Pails-and-Lids>

Joe
b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-09 17:19:29 UTC
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Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
<http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG>
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
I'd call ULINE and ask.
.<https://www.uline.com/BL_8150/Plastic-Pails-and-Lids>
Thanks Joe! It looks like
https://www.uline.com/BL_8173/Screw-Top-Pails
is very close to what I want and didn't even know they exist 8-|

bob prohaska
Snag
2024-11-09 18:55:42 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
<http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG>
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
I'd call ULINE and ask.
.<https://www.uline.com/BL_8150/Plastic-Pails-and-Lids>
Thanks Joe! It looks like
https://www.uline.com/BL_8173/Screw-Top-Pails
is very close to what I want and didn't even know they exist 8-|
bob prohaska
Joe beat me to it ... check local places that cater to the
"survivalist" type mindset , these screw top buckets are popular with
that crowd .
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b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-09 20:20:44 UTC
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Post by Snag
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Post by Joe Gwinn
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<http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG>
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
I'd call ULINE and ask.
.<https://www.uline.com/BL_8150/Plastic-Pails-and-Lids>
Thanks Joe! It looks like
https://www.uline.com/BL_8173/Screw-Top-Pails
is very close to what I want and didn't even know they exist 8-|
bob prohaska
Joe beat me to it ... check local places that cater to the
"survivalist" type mindset , these screw top buckets are popular with
that crowd .
Can you think of any names to look for? I've tried some of the big boxes
(Target, Walmart, Tractor supply, Home Depot, Lowes) and struck out.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.

Thanks for writing!

bob prohaska
Leon Fisk
2024-11-09 20:41:57 UTC
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On Sat, 9 Nov 2024 20:20:44 -0000 (UTC)
<***@www.zefox.net> wrote:

<snip>
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Can you think of any names to look for? I've tried some of the big boxes
(Target, Walmart, Tractor supply, Home Depot, Lowes) and struck out.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.
Maybe Military Surplus stores. I get some hits searching Ebay for
screw top pails too...
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Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI
Joe Gwinn
2024-11-09 21:43:32 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Post by Snag
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Post by Joe Gwinn
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<http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG>
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
I'd call ULINE and ask.
.<https://www.uline.com/BL_8150/Plastic-Pails-and-Lids>
Thanks Joe! It looks like
https://www.uline.com/BL_8173/Screw-Top-Pails
is very close to what I want and didn't even know they exist 8-|
bob prohaska
Joe beat me to it ... check local places that cater to the
"survivalist" type mindset , these screw top buckets are popular with
that crowd .
Can you think of any names to look for? I've tried some of the big boxes
(Target, Walmart, Tractor supply, Home Depot, Lowes) and struck out.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.
Hmm. The places to look are the politically red areas.

Joe
b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-10 14:19:46 UTC
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Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Can you think of any names to look for? I've tried some of the big boxes
(Target, Walmart, Tractor supply, Home Depot, Lowes) and struck out.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.
Hmm. The places to look are the politically red areas.
That would point toward rural communities and the Sierra foothills.
Plenty of possibilities, but they're harder to do business with.

Thanks again for giving me the needed keywords. As usual, the trick
to learning is asking the right questions.....

bob prohaska
Jim Wilkins
2024-11-21 00:18:42 UTC
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Utz brand snacks such as Pub Mix come in sturdy clear PETE 20 oz cannisters
and 44 oz barrels with wide screw tops.
b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-21 16:46:49 UTC
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Post by Jim Wilkins
Utz brand snacks such as Pub Mix come in sturdy clear PETE 20 oz cannisters
and 44 oz barrels with wide screw tops.
It appears that Walmart sells Pub Mix, but it isn't clear the jar or
lid is big enough to bolt the cyclone's five inch outlet flange to.
The clear jar is a plus, but building an adapter flange is not.

I've ordered a screw-top 3.5 gallon bucket from Amazon, now on
its way from Indiana. Should be here early next week. That's a bit
larger than I wanted but seems a close-enough match to needs for an
experiment. The key will be the quality of the lid and its seal to
the bucket.

Thanks for writing!

bob prohaska
Jim Wilkins
2024-11-21 18:05:26 UTC
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Post by Jim Wilkins
Utz brand snacks such as Pub Mix come in sturdy clear PETE 20 oz cannisters
and 44 oz barrels with wide screw tops.
It appears that Walmart sells Pub Mix, but it isn't clear the jar or
lid is big enough to bolt the cyclone's five inch outlet flange to.
The clear jar is a plus, but building an adapter flange is not.

bob prohaska

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The OD of the lid is 4.46", so perhaps the flange bolts to a flat sheet
metal adapter could be outside it. The OD of the bottom end is 4.225".
b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-21 21:22:53 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Post by Jim Wilkins
Utz brand snacks such as Pub Mix come in sturdy clear PETE 20 oz cannisters
and 44 oz barrels with wide screw tops.
It appears that Walmart sells Pub Mix, but it isn't clear the jar or
lid is big enough to bolt the cyclone's five inch outlet flange to.
The clear jar is a plus, but building an adapter flange is not.
bob prohaska
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The OD of the lid is 4.46", so perhaps the flange bolts to a flat sheet
metal adapter could be outside it. The OD of the bottom end is 4.225".
I can't resist asking how you got those dimensions...

I looked at the product photos in search of some clue to scale and
didn't find anything I recognized as helpful. The mounting bolt
circle for the cyclone is 4.312" with an outlet of 3".

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska
Jim Wilkins
2024-11-21 22:18:38 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
I can't resist asking how you got those dimensions...
...I measured the 20 oz Pub Mix atop my fridge.
b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-22 00:23:59 UTC
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Post by Jim Wilkins
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
I can't resist asking how you got those dimensions...
...I measured the 20 oz Pub Mix atop my fridge.
There's nothing better than experimental confirmation...

bob prohaska
Jim Wilkins
2024-11-22 12:17:33 UTC
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Post by Jim Wilkins
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
I can't resist asking how you got those dimensions...
...I measured the 20 oz Pub Mix atop my fridge.
There's nothing better than experimental confirmation...

bob prohaska
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How did you think I got them?

I ask because some people can't understand my carefully reasoned though
innovative actions, such as carrying a 4" dial caliper in my shirt pocket
when shopping for used tools. There's one, a magnifier, dial thermometer and
compact tape measure in both glove compartments. Having the thermometer
provoked a surprisingly negative response, why would any sensible person do
such a thing?
Leon Fisk
2024-11-22 13:02:01 UTC
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On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 07:17:33 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <***@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
Post by Jim Wilkins
I ask because some people can't understand my carefully reasoned though
innovative actions, such as carrying a 4" dial caliper in my shirt pocket
when shopping for used tools. There's one, a magnifier, dial thermometer and
compact tape measure in both glove compartments. Having the thermometer
provoked a surprisingly negative response, why would any sensible person do
such a thing?
Makes sense to me👍

I have an old Lufkin tape measure that lives in my center console cup
holder. I'm terribly near sighted so seeing detail up close is not much
of a problem, just look over top of my glasses. I usually have some
sort of multitool on me, which covers a lot of bases too. I'll bring
along other items if I suspect they could be useful on an outing...
--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI
b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-26 19:03:42 UTC
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Post by Jim Wilkins
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How did you think I got them?
I ask because some people can't understand my carefully reasoned though
innovative actions, such as carrying a 4" dial caliper in my shirt pocket
when shopping for used tools. There's one, a magnifier, dial thermometer and
compact tape measure in both glove compartments. Having the thermometer
provoked a surprisingly negative response, why would any sensible person do
such a thing?
I was hopeful you'd figured out how to extract the dimensions from
the sales information and/or photos on the web pages. I didn't have
a sample available. You didn't mention having a sample, which seemed a
normal thing to indicate. From that perspective, the precision of the
dimensions was quite marvelous to behold!

8-)

bob prohaska
Jim Wilkins
2024-11-27 11:51:00 UTC
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I was hopeful you'd figured out how to extract the dimensions from
the sales information and/or photos on the web pages. I didn't have
a sample available. You didn't mention having a sample, which seemed a
normal thing to indicate. From that perspective, the precision of the
dimensions was quite marvelous to behold!
------------------------------

To keep explanations short I leave things out to see what readers will or
won't correctly assume. What seems obvious to me isn't always to others.
b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-25 23:14:18 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
I've ordered a screw-top 3.5 gallon bucket from Amazon, now on
its way from Indiana. Should be here early next week. That's a bit
larger than I wanted but seems a close-enough match to needs for an
experiment. The key will be the quality of the lid and its seal to
the bucket.
The bucket is rather impressive. Very stout construction with an elaborate
sealing and locking mechanism. From the closing instructions that came with
it the intent seems to be shipment of hazardous materials under UN/DOT regs.
Both lid and bucket are claimed to be .090" thick, and they feel like it.

The manufacturer's website is https://www.mmcontainer.com/

Thanks for everybody's help!

bob prohaska
Joe Gwinn
2024-11-26 15:51:45 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
I've ordered a screw-top 3.5 gallon bucket from Amazon, now on
its way from Indiana. Should be here early next week. That's a bit
larger than I wanted but seems a close-enough match to needs for an
experiment. The key will be the quality of the lid and its seal to
the bucket.
The bucket is rather impressive. Very stout construction with an elaborate
sealing and locking mechanism. From the closing instructions that came with
it the intent seems to be shipment of hazardous materials under UN/DOT regs.
Both lid and bucket are claimed to be .090" thick, and they feel like it.
The manufacturer's website is <https://www.mmcontainer.com/>
They are impressive.

I don't recall what was in the dust being separated, but note that
EPDM gaskets cannot handle any oil. If that's a problem, replace with
neoprene.

Joe
Jim Wilkins
2024-11-09 22:31:46 UTC
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Can you think of any names to look for? I've tried some of the big boxes
(Target, Walmart, Tractor supply, Home Depot, Lowes) and struck out.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.

Thanks for writing!

bob prohaska

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You might ask restaurants for emptied food containers, Mayo for instance
comes in 1 gallon screw top bottles. A picture of your rig might help
convince them you won't be making drugs in it.

https://www.webstaurantstore.com/hellmanns-1-gallon-real-mayonnaise-case/125HLMN5308.html?
Bob La Londe
2024-11-09 22:57:28 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Can you think of any names to look for? I've tried some of the big boxes
(Target, Walmart, Tractor supply, Home Depot, Lowes) and struck out.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.
Thanks for writing!
bob prohaska
------------------------------------------
You might ask restaurants for emptied food containers, Mayo for instance
comes in 1 gallon screw top bottles. A picture of your rig might help
convince them you won't be making drugs in it.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/hellmanns-1-gallon-real-mayonnaise-
case/125HLMN5308.html?
I once bought a batch of pickle buckets on eBay for a chemical bath
process. Nobody cared... well... I had to clean the buckets several
times before they quit reeking of pickles.
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Jim Wilkins
2024-11-09 23:47:43 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Can you think of any names to look for? I've tried some of the big boxes
(Target, Walmart, Tractor supply, Home Depot, Lowes) and struck out.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.
Thanks for writing!
bob prohaska
------------------------------------------
You might ask restaurants for emptied food containers, Mayo for instance
comes in 1 gallon screw top bottles. A picture of your rig might help
convince them you won't be making drugs in it.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/hellmanns-1-gallon-real-mayonnaise-
case/125HLMN5308.html?
I once bought a batch of pickle buckets on eBay for a chemical bath
process. Nobody cared... well... I had to clean the buckets several
times before they quit reeking of pickles.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff

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A sub shop has given me many free green pickle buckets to carry dirty
firewood into the house. The smell did go away after a while. None came with
lids, perhaps because I didn't ask.

A broken 1 or 2 gallon garden sprayer has a durable gasketed screw top which
could perhaps be modified on a lathe to replace the pump with a metal plate.

I've hammered tapered tubing adapters and similar funnel shapes in up to 14
gauge sheet metal with an anvil and a wooden former, which is a nearly half
spherical depression in the end of firewood, turned by rotating the lathe
compound. The idea is to stretch and dish the metal by hitting in an
unsupported area surrounded by support.
David Billington
2024-11-10 02:17:10 UTC
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Post by Bob La Londe
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Can you think of any names to look for? I've tried some of the big boxes
(Target, Walmart, Tractor supply, Home Depot, Lowes) and struck out.
I'm near Sacramento, CA.
Thanks for writing!
bob prohaska
------------------------------------------
You might ask restaurants for emptied food containers, Mayo for
instance comes in 1 gallon screw top bottles. A picture of your rig
might help convince them you won't be making drugs in it.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/hellmanns-1-gallon-real-mayonnaise-
case/125HLMN5308.html?
I once bought a batch of pickle buckets on eBay for a chemical bath
process.  Nobody cared... well... I had to clean the buckets several
times before they quit reeking of pickles.
A local farm supply has 2000 litre plastic screw top barrels that were
used to ship orange squash concentrate, they sell them for water butts.
I had a look at them as a replacement for my mother's galvanised steel
water butt that was beyond repair but they were too tall, taking the lid
off they still smelled of orange concentrate. I used a black 1000 litre
IBC container in the end. Another local guy used to sell smaller barrels
for water butts that had been used to ship vinegar in.

When I needed some small containers like the OP wanted I just went down
to the local shop that did a sandwich round in the local area and they
were happy to give them to me as they had to pay to dispose of them.
They held catering quantities of mayonnaise and other ingredients.
Jim Wilkins
2024-11-10 12:48:44 UTC
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"David Billington" wrote in message news:vgp536$1okf$***@dont-email.me...

A local farm supply has 2000 litre plastic screw top barrels that were
used to ship orange squash concentrate, they sell them for water butts.
I had a look at them as a replacement for my mother's galvanised steel
water butt that was beyond repair but they were too tall, taking the lid
off they still smelled of orange concentrate. I used a black 1000 litre
IBC container in the end. Another local guy used to sell smaller barrels
for water butts that had been used to ship vinegar in.
-----------------------------------------

I bought a blue barrel with attached lid for fire fighting water storage out
back. It had held coffee concentrate that still flavored water after several
soapy water flushes. Plastic fittings for the bungs are easy to find, except
for one that seals around a pipe reaching to the bottom, so I had to hang it
horizontal from shed roof beams.

The water refills the garden sprayers modified with sink spray hoses that
serve as brush fire extinguishers in summer and for showering with water
heated on the wood stove in winter.

I made bulkhead fittings to convert trash cans to rain barrels by lathe
threading the barbed end of a pipe to hose adapter. The o ring seal is on
the outside, the inside needs a reinforcing washer to spread the lateral
pull of a connected hose. For convenience the outside hose is a clear vinyl
tube long enough to reach and attach to the carrying handle, with an in-line
plastic garden hose valve on the end. The hose extension lets the barrel
hide in the bushes. The covering strainer is 1/4" hardware cloth formed into
a volcano shape, a cone with a crater in the top, plus landscape fabric or
window screen to filter roof debris and block mosquitos.

The fixed gutter downspout ends above barrel height to attach an accordion
flex tube to feed the barrel in summer and a straight down section in
winter. If you don't mind the appearance the flex tube works fine in winter
too.
David Billington
2024-11-09 18:36:31 UTC
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Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Apologies if this is considered off topic, but maybe a shop
worker knows where to find what I'm looking for.
For several years now I'ved used a small cyclone separator and
shop vac in an over-the-shoulder arrangement for outdoor cleanup
<http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG>
The problem is the lid on the plastic bucket: The buckets, despite
being throwaways, hold up fine. The lids, not so much. Usually they
crack at the outer edge. Even a tiny leak below the cyclone totally
disrupts the separation process and the lid has to be replaced.
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
suitable. A stout, wide mouth plastic jar with either a flat side or
a lid big enough to mate to the 5" bottom flange on the cyclone is
what I've sought to no avail.
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
I'd call ULINE and ask.
.<https://www.uline.com/BL_8150/Plastic-Pails-and-Lids>
Joe
I can't see the original post for some reason.

When I lived in the US I got a few plastic screw top olive barrels from
a local deli to use for brewing beer, they were larger than the tub
shown but quite a bit more substantial so it might be worth asking if
you have one in your area.
b***@www.zefox.net
2024-11-09 20:09:47 UTC
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Post by David Billington
Post by Joe Gwinn
Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Apologies if this is considered off topic, but maybe a shop
worker knows where to find what I'm looking for.
For several years now I'ved used a small cyclone separator and
shop vac in an over-the-shoulder arrangement for outdoor cleanup
<http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG>
The problem is the lid on the plastic bucket: The buckets, despite
being throwaways, hold up fine. The lids, not so much. Usually they
crack at the outer edge. Even a tiny leak below the cyclone totally
disrupts the separation process and the lid has to be replaced.
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
suitable. A stout, wide mouth plastic jar with either a flat side or
a lid big enough to mate to the 5" bottom flange on the cyclone is
what I've sought to no avail.
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
I'd call ULINE and ask.
.<https://www.uline.com/BL_8150/Plastic-Pails-and-Lids>
Joe
I can't see the original post for some reason.
When I lived in the US I got a few plastic screw top olive barrels from
a local deli to use for brewing beer, they were larger than the tub
shown but quite a bit more substantial so it might be worth asking if
you have one in your area.
Because this is an over-the-shoulder rig frequently used on a ladder
I'd prefer it stay fairly small. A 5 gallon bucket is very clumsy
even when totally empty. A 3.5 gallon size, which appears to be
the smallest available singly, might be ok if it's not too full.
The 2.5 gallon size shown by Uline has to be ordered five at a time.
Even that size gets clumsy if it's half full of dirt, though in that
case hopefully I won't be on a ladder 8-)

Quite a few of the screw top buckets have a deep relief molded into
the lid, probably for stiffness. It's much better for the lid to have
a stiff rim and a nearly-flat center, like the Uline or

https://www.amazon.com/Vestil-PAIL-SCR-35-W-Plastic-Handle-Capacity/dp/B0052P26YG/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=P1ARi&content-id=amzn1.sym.2ada0ca8-c08f-4dd3-bf6e-06e1e651bb29%3Aamzn1.symc.ebdd2303-2907-45b9-b343-3896226c508a&pf_rd_p=2ada0ca8-c08f-4dd3-bf6e-06e1e651bb29&pf_rd_r=BX6J0BQHQ8M32STM5SVA&pd_rd_wg=veMqi&pd_rd_r=b29ba4c6-a827-4229-8e46-be1c69f66ef2&ref_=pd_hp_d_atf_ci_mcx_mr_ca_hp_atf_d

to seal the bottom flange of the cyclone.


The key to the goose chase seems to be the term "screw top pail", which
never occurred to me.

Thanks to everybody who replied!

bob prohaska
Bob La Londe
2024-11-09 21:00:24 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Apologies if this is considered off topic, but maybe a shop
worker knows where to find what I'm looking for.
For several years now I'ved used a small cyclone separator and
shop vac in an over-the-shoulder arrangement for outdoor cleanup
http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG
The problem is the lid on the plastic bucket: The buckets, despite
being throwaways, hold up fine. The lids, not so much. Usually they
crack at the outer edge. Even a tiny leak below the cyclone totally
disrupts the separation process and the lid has to be replaced.
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
suitable. A stout, wide mouth plastic jar with either a flat side or
a lid big enough to mate to the 5" bottom flange on the cyclone is
what I've sought to no avail.
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
Thanks for reading,
bob prohaska
I've found buckets seem to come in "grades." Drywall buckets only hold
up marginally better than retail buckets. Paint buckets are a mixed
bag. The buckets I get from industrial suppliers full of coolant and
way oil seem to be quite good. Both lid and bucket. The problem with
coolant buckets is the pour spout in the lid. That being said I save
the buckets, to be reused all the time, but the lids tend to go in the
dumpster except for the buckets I use for waste oil.

I have two way oil buckets in the freezer in my shop full of ice right
now. When I go fishing I dump one of them in my cooler and slide the
full one over, and put the newly empty one under the ice maker. They
have held up quite well inspite of the cold, and the ones laying around
the shop have of course held up well enough to the heat.

The lids on retail buckets are terrible. So are the buckets.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
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Bob La Londe
2024-11-09 21:17:20 UTC
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Post by b***@www.zefox.net
Apologies if this is considered off topic, but maybe a shop
worker knows where to find what I'm looking for.
For several years now I'ved used a small cyclone separator and
shop vac in an over-the-shoulder arrangement for outdoor cleanup
http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG
The problem is the lid on the plastic bucket: The buckets, despite
being throwaways, hold up fine. The lids, not so much. Usually they
crack at the outer edge. Even a tiny leak below the cyclone totally
disrupts the separation process and the lid has to be replaced.
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
suitable. A stout, wide mouth plastic jar with either a flat side or
a lid big enough to mate to the 5" bottom flange on the cyclone is
what I've sought to no avail.
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
Thanks for reading,
bob prohaska
I've found buckets seem to come in "grades."  Drywall buckets only hold
up marginally better than retail buckets.  Paint buckets are a mixed
bag.  The buckets I get from industrial suppliers full of coolant and
way oil seem to be quite good.  Both lid and bucket.  The problem with
coolant buckets is the pour spout in the lid.  That being said I save
the buckets,  to be reused all the time, but the lids tend to go in the
dumpster except for the buckets I use for waste oil.
I have two way oil buckets in the freezer in my shop full of ice right
now.  When I go fishing I dump one of them in my cooler and slide the
full one over, and put the newly empty one under the ice maker.  They
have held up quite well inspite of the cold, and the ones laying around
the shop have of course held up well enough to the heat.
The lids on retail buckets are terrible.  So are the buckets.
Also, there is a separator that snaps on in place of a lid if I recall.
No clue how well it works. I do have a couple separators similar to the
one you pictured I'll be playing with soon. I am going to try using two
buckets on the new CNC router. One for wood chips, and one for metal
chips... well eventually.
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Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
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Apologies if this is considered off topic, but maybe a shop
worker knows where to find what I'm looking for.
For several years now I'ved used a small cyclone separator and
shop vac in an over-the-shoulder arrangement for outdoor cleanup
http://www.zefox.net/~bob/dustdeputy/portabledustdeputy.JPG
The problem is the lid on the plastic bucket: The buckets, despite
being throwaways, hold up fine. The lids, not so much. Usually they
crack at the outer edge. Even a tiny leak below the cyclone totally
disrupts the separation process and the lid has to be replaced.
I've looked for a better container for a few years and found nothing
suitable. A stout, wide mouth plastic jar with either a flat side or
a lid big enough to mate to the 5" bottom flange on the cyclone is
what I've sought to no avail.
Does anybody know of such a thing, or a workable alternative?
Thanks for reading,
bob prohaska
I've found buckets seem to come in "grades." Drywall buckets only hold
up marginally better than retail buckets. Paint buckets are a mixed
bag. The buckets I get from industrial suppliers full of coolant and
way oil seem to be quite good. Both lid and bucket. The problem with
coolant buckets is the pour spout in the lid. That being said I save
the buckets, to be reused all the time, but the lids tend to go in the
dumpster except for the buckets I use for waste oil.
I have two way oil buckets in the freezer in my shop full of ice right
now. When I go fishing I dump one of them in my cooler and slide the
full one over, and put the newly empty one under the ice maker. They
have held up quite well inspite of the cold, and the ones laying around
the shop have of course held up well enough to the heat.
The lids on retail buckets are terrible. So are the buckets.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
Last time I needed a flat lid for a five gallon bucket I bought one at
home depot. for smaller size, could you ge away with reinforceing the
original with sheet metal plates sandwiching the original (well
"buttered" with caulking compoud).
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